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Discussion Starter · #1 · (Edited)
what are the best prices you guys have been getting for the is-f?

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sorry guys what i meant to say was -

Whats the lowest price everyone is getting around where they are?
either 08 or 09 but most likely only an 08 ISF will be a deal.
 

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Depends on when you purchase it. If you still can find 08 now, of course you can get a good deal. I would say at less 48k for a 08 fully loaded now.
thanks thats the type of answer im looking for.
i am trying to see what the lowest everyone is getting. i guess i was hoping that we can compare prices on this thread.
 

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Discussion Starter · #8 · (Edited)
i edited my question to make more sense on what i was asking. sorry for the confusion.

im looking to know what others are getting so when i get into the dealership i am armed with solid facts instead of having them play with me when we sit down to negotiate.
you all know how the dealerships play with buyers.


1. - walk into dealership.
9am :)

2. - use the restroom
9:05am :p

3. - look around show room
9.40am :cool:

4. - salesman spots customer
9.41am


5. - test drive ISF
9.55am :D

6. - drive back to dealership after test drive
9.56am :(

7. - walk over to salesmans desk and sit down to fill out paper work for financing
10.04am :cool:

8. - negotiation starts
10.20am :rolleyes:

10.
- salesman starts to walk to finanace room to tell them this customer is a joke
- salesman goes to restroom but lets customer think he is still negotiating with manager.
- salesman comes back and says price is no good, they are not making any money on that.
- renogotiation for a new higher price.
- salesman goes back to manager with the higher price.
*go back and repeat step #10, twenty-six more times*

-customer is finally wore down and will agree to the next price cause he is hungry and wants to just drive his car now!

9.44pm
 

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i hope so. the last time i went to a bmw dealership they gave me the run around. they eventually gave me a lower number but it wasnt until i got home at the end of the day of negotiations and the salesman called me up. i ahd actually took a day off of work just to have some driving fun after i buy the car. i just didnt think it would have been a whole day ordeal. he said they are willing to go with the number i asked for. being stupid i went back at about 10pm on a work week and picked up the car.
 

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Discussion Starter · #35 · (Edited)
I don't want to say that your not getting that price, but I am going to say I see no reason to sell a Brand New 2009 IS-F at no profit. 2009's are very hard to come by, and production will not resume till May.
i really doubt a dealership is going to not have a profit on a high end high priced car.

there is a huge margin that many people dont know and are forgetting. make less of an item and add just a few luxury items, charge 5x more than it should, and promote the hell out of it, people will pay.



there are real test and surveys done.
people will pay more just because they believe its better, not because it is but because they feel it is.

if people feel they got a great deal then thats all it needs for an awesome deal.

i love how marketing works. :D
 

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Discussion Starter · #38 ·
I don't know what current offers are, but a couple months ago I got my new 08 ISF for more than 13k below MSRP.
nice, that what im talking about.

now how do i get in on that. or even on a new 09. i think soon i should b e able to get that with the 09.
 

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They only scaled it down by 25 cars total. Considering overall Lexus sales are down 41.6% for the 2009 year and 36.1% for the IS model itself id say that scaled down production isnt going to matter and there will actually be more 2009 models sitting around waiting.
I might consider another one if the prices ever get to where i feel the car is worth it. Used ones are selling for more then what you can buy a new one for thats kinda sad people are that upside down in these cars. That says more to me then performance numbers.
Most i would pay new for one right now is $45K (which can be done if you look enough) most i would pay used is $40K which doesnt seem to be able to be done right now. Cheapest used ive seen lately is $48K.
good info.

the prior guy is a dealer and hence i would expect for him to push sales for the dealerships. ill keep this post till dec and see if what he says will hold. if it doesnt then it will be proof that dealerships are always pushing higher number to unknowledged consumers.
 

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Hes actually a pretty straight forward guy I talked to him on the phone when we were looking for my wifes First IS-F and he shot me a price i think of $47,200 if i remember right. The only reason we didn't buy it from him was the dealer in Dallas matched it and for me its 2 hours to Dallas vs 2.5 days back and forth to Chicago. The sales and production numbers are public info so you can find it all over the place if you search for it.

I got my brother-in-law into a new IS250 this morning for $30K OTD only thing it didnt have was Navigation. Its basically just a matter of doing your homework before you fly into a dealership and try to buy a car. I gave him the info he needed and the dealer did it. The salesman said he was surprised cause 2 days ago someone else tried to buy the exact same car and his boss wouldn't go $1 below $32,600

The main thing to remember is do your homework up and down and 50 different ways. Talk to no less the 5 dealers even more if your really going for the deal. Last but not least dont ever ever think you are getting over on the dealer. Its just like Vegas they are still making their money on you. they are a business so they have to and you cant fault them for that you just have to play the game of Not let me try and beat the dealer but how much can i limit my ass kicking from the dealer. You do it that way and you will always walk away with a better deal then the average joe but they dealer always wins. ALWAYS.

i wasnt trying to make that guy a bad guy, i know he is only doing a job and trying to make $$$$$$$.

as for your statement on your next paragraph, i am with you 100% in agreement.

people don't realize that dealerships make sooo much money even if they say they dont.
i get alot of "oh, we aren't making any money off you if i discount 500.00 bucks".
thats total b.s. there is much money to be made in a sale.

ill call around and see what i get.

thanks for the info.
 
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