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looks like ill be getting one at the end of august. mercedes dealership here still wants sticker for their C63 AMGs. best they said they could do is 1500 off msrp. on a v8? in this economy? on a car thats already north of 70k and going to be north of 80k after CALIFORNIA taxes/title/reg? no thanks.

ill get an isf, where i can get the car for basically invoice +500, and be out the door for 60k. hmm. pocket the 20k for lets see.. tires, some mods down the road, and that new jack and the box smoothie.
 

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dealership near my house. largest volume lexas dealer in the west coast.

u guys might get 1-2 a month, this dealership gets 4-5 a month.
they now have 7 on the lot. contrary to popular belief, good deals can be had if u look. i am 100 percent positive i can get this car for 54k fully loaded with a window price of a shade under 61k.

some people are smart. they realize that if they make a quick sell and make 2k on a car its a lot better than holding off hoping to catch a sucker who will pay 5k over invoice so u can make 6k.
 

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Andy, they dont lose money selling for 500 over invoice. hell u could sell the car at invoice and ud still make money.
say u get 5 ISFs. u sell one at invoice. the other 4 at prices ranging from 1-5k over invoice. even the one at invoice you made money because for selling all 5 you get a nice "kickback" rebate. I have many friends in the automotive industry who have confirmed this, as did the finance manager at the lexus dealership near my home.

all im saying is not all salesmen are greedy. Andy, YOU may want to make 5k per ISF u sell, and thats your issue. some people would rather make 2000 per car and sell 5, then hope to make 5k and sell one. Greed is a natual human trait that we all have, whereas some people are able to manage it better than others. if you can sell all 5 at 5k profit each, more power to you; just that i definitely wont be one of your "customers." Do most buyers know how to get a good deal or know what they want in a car? no, and they get ripped off. However, if you are knowledgeable, do your research and compare, like I DO before buying, then you will get a great deal. Simple as that. Also, it helps that i have a good relationship with the finance manager at the dealership. maybe im getting a deal that one of u wont get. i dont know that, nor do i care. bottom line is, im going to get this car and im going to get it for around 54k before tax, title, and reg so around 60k out the door.

i understand that its a business, but simply put, with this deal on the table, i am not going to pass it up nor am i going to buy elsewhere for say, 1-2-even 3k off msrp. the only reason why i have not pulled the trigger yet is because they have a white/white interior coming in by months end, and i have not decided between black/white interior yet. oh, and this one comes equipped with PS2s, instead of the bridgestones of the other 7 cars on the lot.

and for the record, i agree with SMoke on the over msrp deal. anyone who pays over MSRP for any car is stupid or foollish. i dont care if its a freaking veyron. if you are paying over msrp, IMO you are foolish.
 

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WP, I think you have me confussed with others.... ^ If you look above, I am the person that said I would never ask or pay over list. I did not say we would loose money either.

Just wanted to set the record straight. And I wouldn't pass the deal up on the IS-f your buddy is getting you either if I was in your shoes.

FYI, I just tinted the windows on the Starfire Pearl with Alpine and it looks awesome !!! I'd chose that over the Black on white. Just my 2 cents...
got any pics of that car? im having a hard time with the interior choice.
ive already decided i want a white exterior color car. interior is a tossup between the black/white.
 
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