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Possible bad news for Lexus F fans

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In an annual ritual, weekly U.S. trade publication Automotive News between late July and the very end of August devotes 5 issues to future product predictions as long as 4 years out, with GM, Ford, Chrysler, European and Asian carmakers each getting an issue. These later work their way to their consumer-oriented sibling publication, AutoWeek.

Their predictions for Lexus' pending F models, the GS F and the LF-A/LF-1 supercar are quite discouraging. Here's what they have to say:

GS: The idea of a GS-F high-performance sedan — think BMW M5 fighter — has been put on hold until the economy improves. Designers are debating styling issues for the redesign due for the 2011 model year.

LF-1: The LF-1 high-performance car had been expected this year but has been delayed for at least two reasons.

Insiders say the LF-1 is not hitting performance objectives in line with a $160,000-plus performance car. Second, launching a six-figure sports car into a global recession might doom it.

At this point, Lexus likely will wait until the spring of 2010 to bring it to market as a 2011 model. Of course, by that time, the car's styling will be stale. The first concept with styling cues that will be seen on the LF-1 debuted in 2005.

To read more on their predictions for the rest of the Lexus lineup, check out <A HREF="http://my.is/forums/f41/automotive-news-future-predictions-lexus-models-2008-edition-368182/">this story from sister site my.IS.</A>
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That is bad news,however look at the good side it makes the "F" that more special and meaningfull.Definitely , it's considered a limited edition even more so now than before!
Idk know I think that the price on the lf-a is ridiculous six figures for a car that can't even shatter records why does lexus even call this a ferrari competitor when it should be focusing on beating the likes of the zr1 gtr and the upcoming rebirth of the acura nsx and at the same time bring down the price to a more realistic 100k for the lf-a and make the lf-1 and competitor to the v-spec and price it for 30k more
And another thing no offence to all the die hard lexus and toyota fans but I think there hole market has been so we'll let me put it like this think about it
Nissan.2008 gtr
Nissan.2010 gtr vspec
Nissan.2010 240sx succesor
Acura.2010 nsx
Mitsubishi.evo x. Lancer turbo ralliart. Sports back
Hyundai a hyundai genesis coupe rwd turbo closing in at 300hp
Mazda. Speed .3 .6.
Subaru. Wrx sti
I know bmw is german but come on their doing it big with the twin turbo straight six.
Come on people shit even korea smells the cofe and toyota is still wearing the same old granny panties its time to pull out the blue prints trow the fths concept in the garbage and think big think supra everybodys begging for it. Show em how its done. And leave the hybrids to the american companys like gm shit they even have a turbo cobalt know
And another thing no offence to all the die hard lexus and toyota fans but I think there hole market has been so we'll let me put it like this think about it
Nissan.2008 gtr
Nissan.2010 gtr vspec
Nissan.2010 240sx succesor
Acura.2010 nsx
Mitsubishi.evo x. Lancer turbo ralliart. Sports back
Hyundai a hyundai genesis coupe rwd turbo closing in at 300hp
Mazda. Speed .3 .6.
Subaru. Wrx sti
I know bmw is german but come on their doing it big with the twin turbo straight six.
Come on people shit even korea smells the cofe and toyota is still wearing the same old granny panties its time to pull out the blue prints trow the fths concept in the garbage and think big think supra everybodys begging for it. Show em how its done. And leave the hybrids to the american companys like gm shit they even have a turbo cobalt know
Hhhmmmm... Turbo/Supercharged Hybrid anybody??!?!?!? hehehe... Can you say a EVO = 4cylinder turbocharged raping a BMW... :eek: and it cost less and if it were to add mods to and having the price equal to a M3 = SMOKED big time.:D
By the way you you also have to keep in mind that these companies need to make profit in order for their R&D to come out with better design and outperforming vehicles. '08 GT-R not doing too well with sales especially priced @ 70k-90k. Warranty getting voided doesn't help either. Toyota isn't really wearing the same old granny panties, they're doing a whole lot better in sales compare to any American companies.
Yes, there is something to be said for building cars that people are and have been buying. Toyota/Lexus seems to have their smart rubber panties on. Making cars that sell without many stains down low!
That is bad news,however look at the good side it makes the "F" that more special and meaningfull.Definitely , it's considered a limited edition even more so now than before!
Very well said, so IS-F will be the only supercar for lexus for couple years then, since the economy is pretty bad.
Three words regarding future vehicle speculations:grain of salt.
LEXUS/TOYOTA
i own a 05 tricked out street doublecab tundra. it already won my 1st show i ever entered most tricked out tundra. i went up against aprox.18 tundra's that day nov 10, 2007. tundra solution's south florida meet/show had year's from early 2000 up to the gen2 2007 tundra's. all model's were there.

with that said my only issue is that i have yet to find anyone that can disable the speed & rev limitor's. yes, i have the UNICHIP mapped for my cai, headers, and cat back.
i also have ffront & rear up-graded sway bar's from HELLWIG. i also have v-rated tire's. and a very long list of aftermarket item's. from the engine compartment billit covers, & cap's, loom wire cover's, trd items, and under the hood mirror's.

i dyno'ed at 326Hp. the new set of calulations for HP in 2006 ,dropped my engine or flywheel HP from 282 to 271HP. so 326 isn't bad. i have yet to custom tune it. since it was so hard to find a authorized custom tuner shop.
which i finally found.

also my new interior is being done, red/black crocidile with black marine suede, & embroded headrested: MODIFIED MADNESS

i wonder if the lexus has the same issue ,that the ECU unit's code's are as hard to brake, as the tundra's?

i'm in search of a supercar, that is brand new and won't brake the bank. i'm not looking to spend 130g's for the new 638HP vette.

i do love the look of the lexus IS-F. and the power is also extremely nice for such a small vehicle. but i keep going back to ,if i wanted to make it better, faster, etc. will i be able to disable the limitor's.:rolleyes:
i know this is a lexus forum. but i'm sure many of you asked yourself the same question.
anyway, i'm glad i found this forum, i want to read up on thing's, and try to catch up. sorry if this question was asked already, but this is my 1st post. so HELLO to you all,:D
GORILLA
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well the speed "limiter" on the F is set at 170mph ... hasn't been an issue for me yet.
as far as tweaking the ECU ... good luck. if you want the F to be faster just go for the twin-turbo or SC.
thanks, i guess the isf might be my choise.
for 50g's.
gorilla
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