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01/05/2013 - UPDATE!!!!

Well, the big day has arrived, 6 years after driving it on the track and 4 years after joining the forum. It's been a crazy day and I'm finally home, but it was worth it.

New beast is here, 2013 ISF, Nebula Gray Pearl with black interior. NAV + ML. It was worth the wait.

There she is at the detail shop.



First night in the garage, away from the rain!



Still can't believe this quest is actually over.


Back then....


New to the forum. I currently drive an 04 WRX STi, but may have to get rid of it for a house.

I first saw the ISF at the SF AutoShow in 2007,it was love at first sight. I then got to drive it in Fontana International Raceway, here is car # 1 that I drove and a few other shots, it was a blast:














I have another junker car that I drive, but if I do get rid of the STi, the ISF is the only car I would consider as a replacement.

As with any car I plan on buying, I always research it out for at least a year. I did so with the Nissan 350Z back in 2003, and ended up not buying it due to all the issues it had, and ended up with the STi.

Here is a picture of the current beast:



Only 16K miles on it, it's a weekend toy.

The car is "fully loaded" compared to what it came with when it was stock. Well, it didn't even have a radio when it was stock. (All 2004 STi did not have a radio or floor mats)

  • Cobb Stage 2 package, custom tuned, 91 pump gas
  • APS 65 mm Cold air Intake
  • Some engine dress up pieces
  • StopTech stainless brake lines/Motul 600 RBF fluid
  • Lancer Evolution RECARO seats (yes, from an Evo 8)
  • Pioneer Avic F900BT, Boss 600 amplified sub, XM, NAV, DVD...the works...
  • Custom Valentine 1 Radar/Laser detector setup with kill switch
  • ATi gauge pod, 52 mm matching gauges boost & oil pressure
  • Custom shift boot, ebrake, center consule in leather and custom shift knob


In my free time, I like to detail cars.
 

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Thank you! Yes, the STi is fun, especially when moded correctly. It just not as comfortable with the stock seats, and attracts a whole lot of attention from everyone.
 

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Well, got my own place now. Sold my old car and got an 06 Honda Accord fully loaded to roll in.

Trying to sell the STi now.....

ISF is still the ultimate destination.
 

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A few questions, I'm researching the car.

1. What oil grade does the ISF use?

2. How long are your tires lasting?

3. How is the gas milage if you don't "play" too much on the freeway?

4. What RPM does the engine run at, at 80 MPH in 8th gear?

5. How is the factory sound system and Navigation?

6. Is this car equipped with laser or radar guided cruise control?

7. Are the brakes dusty? (Do they create a lot of brake dust)

8. What kind of cars did you beat with the the ISF? I know this is M3, RS4 and AMG territory but just curious.
 

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4) The engine is running just over 2000 RPM at 80 MPH in 8th gear.

5) The ML stereo is great in my opinion. I absolutely hate the navigation system because you cannot use most of its functions while the car is in motion. You have to spend over $400 if you want to by a hack for navigation to stop this.


Interesting, I was hoping the engine would be able to turn less than 2K RPM due to the displacement/V8 but oh well.

Care to elaborate on the Nav defeat gig? I did a defeat on a Pioneer F900BT in my Subaru, but ofcourse that's an aftermarket unit.
 

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I've been reading about the 2UR-GSE engine last night, very impressive technology.

I like the fact that you can cruise at 70 at around 2000 RPM's or less.
 

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My research shows the depreciation hits hard after 1 year.........the average price for a 2008 ISF in excellent condition (private party) is around 45,000 (20,000 miles give or take)

My target purchase date is end of 2011 although it might be sooner.
 

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Alright, more questions..........

1. How big is the fuel tank? (gallons of course)


2. How is the paint holding up?

3. Can someone please find out what grade oil the engine calls for and how many qrtz?

Thank you.
 

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Ahh that old oil argument.

I had my mechanic over yesterday, we are good friends. He's a retired Toyota Master Mechanic with all the hook ups.

We talked about oil, and he said it all depends on what kind of deal the dealership gets on oil, whatever they can buyer cheaper, they will sell.

I'm currently a big fan of Castrol full synthetic. I'm running the German Castrol 0W-30 in my STi and 5W-20 (as recommended by Honda) in the Accord.

I will find out what the owner of my future ISF used when the time comes. I'm almost certain I will go with either German Castrol or 5W-30 full synthetic and the OEM oil filters.

I expected the engine to hold more oil due to it's size and special oil system.

I've been reading about the engine lately and like what I see:

1. Hollow camshafts. (sounds familiar, Subaru STi has those)

2. Engine/trans oil coolers.

3. Direct and Port injection.

4. VVTi on both intake/exhaust valves. (sweet)

5. The valves are titanium.

6. The engine oil system is designed to keep everything lubed, even during high G cornering.

7. The heads were designed by Yamaha.


I think Toyota did a great job here. I'm looking forward to this.

Here is the lap I got with the instructor on 05/31/2008 after driving the car myself:

 

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More questions.....(hopefully you guys aren't getting tired of me)


1. Is the ECU adaptive to the octane you use? For instance if I filled up with 100 octane, would the ECU recognize it? Some cars can and it's pretty cool, you get a huge bump in power, but on the other hand, that's usually with turbocharged cars.


2. Is there a way to forecast the value of a 2008 or 2009 ISF in the year 2011 or 2012 with about 30,000 miles in excellent condition?
 

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i think the car is only tuned for 91 octane, with higher having no effect, unless your at high altitude where it might make up for some power loss.

and for the value.....just remember the lexus is has best in class resale value.
That's good about the resale value. The car seems to depreciate in the first year or 2 and then sort of settles down.
 

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I can't find out if the ISF has launch control or not, any word on that?

I see myself going to the dragstrip against my best friend with his 4 door M3 (E92) someday.....
 

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No launch control. We just do it the old way and out drive the competition.
Haha....that was good.:D

Wait...I never owned a rear wheel drive car, what's the "old way" ?:eek:

I guess I will be working on my launches when the time comes.

My obsession with this car is growing as each day goes by...........I was reading the car's designer is also the one who helped designed the Supra (another old favorite of mine, especially the Mark 4) and that's about all I need to know.

Is that an oil temperature gauge in the middle?
 

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Alright, let's talk about audio.

If you don't get the factory NAV/stereo, is there a way to fit a Double DIN NAV system in the car?
 
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