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Motive Versus: BMW M3 Sedan vs. Mercedes-Benz C63 AMG vs. Lexus IS-F

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A special thanks to our very own ISFChamp for providing us this great review!

The face-off between ultra-capable small sports sedans from Mercedes-Benz and BMW is nothing new. As you likely know, the original M3 and the Cosworth-powered 190E 2.3-16V started one of the most heated rivalries in auto-racing history, each company countering the other with more power, more speed, and bigger, wilder spoilers. When the 190E became the C-class, AMG took over where the Cosworth car left off and both manufacturers stepped up to six-cylinder engines. For 2008, the fight gets a few more firsts. The BMW has its first V-8 and the Mercedes, well, it promises to be more than a straight-line muscle car for the first time since AMG started tweaking the C.

Neither of those things is as headline-worthy as this: Finally, Japan has an honest-to-goodness answer to Germany's legends. The IS-F has been a glint in Lexus' engineers' eyes ever since the company commissioned Rod Millen to squeeze an LS430's V-8 into the first-generation IS for the 2003 SEMA show. And now here it is, complete with a punchlist of Lexus-like one-upsmanship. With 416 hp, it tops the M3 by a deliberate two horses. With an eight-speed transmission, it out-gears the Mercedes by one. Then there are the massive stacked exhaust outlets, but they speak for themselves. (They ask, "Why?") Still, we're skeptical. Can Lexus really crank a jar of wasabi out of the vanilla factory?

http://www.motivemag.com/pub/featur..._vs_Mercedes-Benz_C63_AMG_vs_Lexus_IS-F.shtml
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Interesting article, and the outcome was as I suspected.

M3 - Great for track, boring on the street
C63 - Great for street, not so much on the track
IS-F - Works on both, does not stand out on either

I did have a question about the tires. I just took delivery and was given the Bridgestone tires on my IS-F. If I complain enough to the dealer, will they swap them out for the PS2's? Anyone else done this?

Andy: Any advice on how I could convince the dealer to swap them out?
Chris, if the dealership has a IS-F there with the set of PS2 and you have no issues with your rims and tires, I would hope they would swap them..

I know I'd do it for you !
I know it sounds silly, but it's like they were almost too sticky... Your forced to slow down more because of it, and that's why we lost time on the track.

Just my 2 cents thats all
Chris, if the dealership has a IS-F there with the set of PS2 and you have no issues with your rims and tires, I would hope they would swap them..

I know I'd do it for you !
I appreciate that, too bad I'm 2000 mi away. :)
I know it sounds silly, but it's like they were almost too sticky... Your forced to slow down more because of it, and that's why we lost time on the track.

Just my 2 cents thats all
Interesting, the Lexus guys had Michelin give the Bridgestone guys the "blueprints" for the tires so that they should be identical. I understand brand preference, but the tires should work the same.
ive always found the PS2 to be sticker than the bridgestone, and by far and away the best all around tire money can buy. on my 4th set on the M3 now...
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