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Just wanted to share this one.

If you look at a Carfax report for a vehicle and it says "Corporate fleet vehicle", it means the car was owned by the Lexus Corporate Office.

Good luck getting the service records for that car! :rolleyes:

I initially called 2 dealerships near Torrance, CA and both said they did not serviced the vehicle, although one said it had a recall for the gas pedal, which was fixed on 10/05/2010.

The trail basically lead to the Lexus Corporate Office, whom I called.

I went through 2 different Reps who said they can't release the service records due to privacy issues, until I own the car. LMAO..........:eek: (They admitted the Corporate Office has its own facilities and service the vehicles themselves)

I thought to myself, what privacy issues? this car was not owned by anyone other than the Corporate Office.

The 2nd Rep then tried to play games with me and tell me I should get the Carfax report. LOL I told her that I got it 6 hours ago.

She then says the car was not involved in any accidents. I told her to tell me something that I don't know.

She asked for my phone # and address (I asked her if she wants to send me anything in the mail)

She then said that her Supervisor will call me within 2 business days.






VIN # JTHBP5C20A5007077
 

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Test drove the car tonight. 2010 with 29,000 miles, black on black. It has the Mark Levingson Stereo, backup camera, rear parking sensors and radar guided cruise control.


In all honesty, I did not feel much of a difference in the ride/suspension of this car vs. the 2011, but perhaps I did not spend enough time in either car.

This is a private dealer and they don't get the car's inspected. They buy cars directly from Lexus Corporate and sell them to the general public.

I spent 20 minutes looking over things and this car is about a 9 out of 10 to me.

The paint is in very good shape, there are only minor rock chips up front and some scratches that I can buff out. I'm sure I can make this car look like 9.5/10. Anything beyond that from what I saw, would require paint/body work, so I'm not sure I would want to go that route, although I have a relationship with a great body-shop.

The tires look new.

The interior is black and I would rate it at 8.8/10, some very minor blemishes that would require some parts to be replaced (gauge cluster cover for example)

2 out of the 4 wheels have some curb rush, but the dealer says he has a guy who will fix that at no charge.

I checked the fluids and everything seemed very clean.

Onto the test drive, was handed the keys and was told to "have at it". :)

Car is very fast as expected, and definitely got a LOT of looks during rush hour traffic. The dealer even offered me to take it home for 24 hours and take it to the inspection, but I just can't get passed paying $150 to inspect the car that I don't own. (catch 22)

We haven't even talked #'s or about my trade.

At this point I'm sort of un-decided, more like 50/50 on this car vs. waiting who knows how long for a 2011.

Let me know what you think.

















 

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^^^^Did you not click on the link:confused:

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I did click on the link.

He may have advertised it there, but I don't see how the car would have been in SC if it's a Corporate Fleet Vehicle and their office is in Torrance, CA.

Surely someone could have driven it cross country, anything is possible these days. The CarFax did not say anything about SC.

In addition, he would not have shipped it there, unless someone bought it first.
 

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^^^^And there you have it! That's why I thought it strange. Why would a South Carolina dealer advertise a car they don't or never had? They have a phone number, might be worth a call.

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^^^^And there you have it! That's why I thought it strange. Why would a South Carolina dealer advertise a car they don't or never had? They have a phone number, might be worth a call.

Lou
I had some time to think about all of this over the weekend.

I decided not to settle on the year or color, crap I've been waiting and saving for 3 years now.

I went to the local dealer today, which I'm in good terms with and spoke with them about the whole thing. You can't even get a 2012 UltraSonic Blue anymore.

So, I decided that if by year's end I don't find my USB 2011 or 2012 CPO car, I am going to have enough $$$ to order a brand new USB 2013, with whatever options I want. It takes 100 days to build/ship it here, so be it, at least nobody will mess with it, and my goose chase will finally end.

If someone can guarantee me around Xmas that 2014 is getting 470 bhp, I will surely wait for that as well.
 

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This is mostly just my 2 cents.

If I were in your position, take your chances waiting until fall and see what incentives they put on the 2012 inventory. The vehicle won't be discounted much, but the borrowing rates are generally good with a security deposit.

I'm not sure if you can get the consumer reports car report, but in Canada it breaks down all the dealer incentives and rebates on the vehicle and what the dealer price vs MSRP on the vehicle and option packages. It was $40 or so for 3 car reports and it did help a bit understanding which dealers were honest in their pricing and sales schemes. I ended up doing the report a couple times on the F to see what incentives are rebates were going on month to month before I bought the car.

I'm not sure the 2014 is worth waiting for (and at the rate you are going you will never get a car haha). It is a long way off and the first model year isn't something I'd be interested buying. The current F with all the changes is a very solid car and you will get favorable borrowing rates on it. Drive it for 3 years then get a 2015 IS-F. :)
 

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This is mostly just my 2 cents.

If I were in your position, take your chances waiting until fall and see what incentives they put on the 2012 inventory. The vehicle won't be discounted much, but the borrowing rates are generally good with a security deposit.

I'm not sure if you can get the consumer reports car report, but in Canada it breaks down all the dealer incentives and rebates on the vehicle and what the dealer price vs MSRP on the vehicle and option packages. It was $40 or so for 3 car reports and it did help a bit understanding which dealers were honest in their pricing and sales schemes. I ended up doing the report a couple times on the F to see what incentives are rebates were going on month to month before I bought the car.

I'm not sure the 2014 is worth waiting for (and at the rate you are going you will never get a car haha). It is a long way off and the first model year isn't something I'd be interested buying. The current F with all the changes is a very solid car and you will get favorable borrowing rates on it. Drive it for 3 years then get a 2015 IS-F. :)
No problem with the rates. I got 2.875% for 84 months from my credit union. (My credit score is 780 and I own my place)

I have a feeling I will end up with a 2012 or a 2013 (new car).
 

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Interesting vehicle history. Sounds like you're ok with waiting and buying new so that's always best. If Lou's link has an accurate price...that seems too steep to me personally.

If you are able to buy new and it was me, I would wait to see if/when the ISF gets the new GS facelift. I would think that would be this next Model Year but who knows.
 

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Yes, I passed on that car and still waiting.

I'm starting to like this new 470 horsepower engine rumor now for 2014, the wait just may be worth it. (crap, I've been waiting like 6 years!!)
 
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