I have the DW tire on stock wheels in 245/35 and 285/30 sizes and luv them. However, I too must caution that the DWS is NOT a winter tire, but an All Season tire.
I have the Blizzak LM-25s. I think they have been discontinued and replaced by a newer model. They are the European touring style winter tires.
They do okay in the snow, but aren't spectacular. If we have more than an inch of snow, I can't make it up the driveway without shoveling a bit. Also, they don't seem to like really deep slush.
However, in dry/wet conditions they handle pretty well for winter tires. Certainly better than I remembered with older snow tires.
My DWSs have served me well. They certainly are not a snow tire, but I have driven them without much trouble in several inches of snow a couple times. It all depends if you are able to feather the throttle or not. on flat ground in snow = a cake walk. The only difficulty is starting from a stop on a steep hill.
Thanks for the input. I'll get the DWS and be gentle in the snow. In Toronto the roads are dry 90% of the time, the snow tires would wear quickly with the long commute. This makes more sense.
The michelin tire looks great, but I'd be pushing my luck driving in snow/slush.
Unless I am missing something, the LM60s don't have an XL load tire for the fronts. They do have 225/40R19 and 255/35R19 tires to match the front and back stock sizes, but only the rears are XL load. Doesn't this present a problem?
After pricing these out and then asking the dealer about installing them, the service rep honestly admitted the rims will likely get scarred taking the tires on and off. So it looks like a new set of wheels is needed for winter.
Problem: the options available are only in 38mm offset 19 8.5. Will these rub the fenders or wheel wells? Stock offset is 45 and 55 I think.
Other cheap wheel options? So far I've only been looking at tire rack.
I'd like to go 18" but I hear some don't fit over the the brakes. Which model did you choose? Also, was there a good way to tell what would fit? It looks like MSW uses the same 45mm offset as stock and tire rack stocks a lot of them
I used the MSW Type 14 18" wheels. I talked to a salesperson at the Tire Rack and he assured me that the wheels would fit. They do require an adapter ring on the wheel itself as well as a different set of lug nuts.
If you want to see a picture of them on the car, I can try and post one tonight when I get home.
scarred if they dont know what they are doing
good thing i have two buddys that run a tire shop
they are located in cambridge, im sure they could take care of u if u wanted to drive
its called cambridge tire team, they have done other isf s in the past
I always hear about them when they arrive casue they are personal friends and do my car
let me know if u end up doing that so i can give them the heads up and tell them to make sure they dont f anything up lol
Unless you live in the hot Southwest ... like me ... The Conti ExtremeContact DWS are amazing tires. Plus a long tread life, too.
Even though cars like the IS-F are unlikely to be used in heavy snow conditions, while the "S" is visible on the tread light-to-moderate snow can be conquered!
My son replaced the Bridgestones on his Mazdaspeed3 at 22,000 miles with the DWSs. Without changing his driving style the "S" is still visible after another 20,000 miles of Southeast and Midwest driving.
Unless you live in the hot Southwest ... like me ... The Conti ExtremeContact DWS are amazing tires. Plus a long tread life, too.
Even though cars like the IS-F are unlikely to be used in heavy snow conditions, while the "S" is visible on the tread light-to-moderate snow can be conquered!
My son replaced the Bridgestones on his Mazdaspeed3 at 22,000 miles with the DWSs. Without changing his driving style the "S" is still visible after another 20,000 miles of Southeast and Midwest driving.
I can vouche for the DWS's on the IS F as I had them on my stock rims and I cannot compliment these tires enough. Unfortunately, my purchase was short lived as about 800 miles later, I went with Vossens which called for 20 inch tires. If anyone is interested, let me know.
This is an informative thread, so I'll add my question to it rather than start another.
My experience with winter tires on my Mazdaspeed 3 is that they don't grip as well as summer tires. The ISF I'll be getting may come from a warm climate and not even have all-seasons. I don't want to risk damaging the wheels with twice yearly tire changes, so I'm looking at a Tirerack.com package with wheels, totaling about $1300. I can swap them myself in the garage. What do you think?
My experience with winter tires on my Mazdaspeed 3 is that they don't grip as well as summer tires. The ISF I'll be getting may come from a warm climate and not even have all-seasons. I don't want to risk damaging the wheels with twice yearly tire changes, so I'm looking at a Tirerack.com package with wheels, totaling about $1300. I can swap them myself in the garage. What do you think?
No new stock ISFs are delivered with All Season tires, all come with Max Performance Summer tires. Either Bridgestone RE050a or Michelin PS2. If you're buying used, then yes the former owner may have changed them to All Season.
As for dedicated Winter tires, yes, another set of wheels is the way to go. Many owners with dedicated winter wheels have used an 18" wheel with good success.
Well thanks for providing these links on winter on stock wheels. I have used these and got amazing results.
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