: New K & N Air Intake For Is-f
jwain 12-21-2008, 09:26 PM wow k&N made an intake for my car it wont be released until another 3 months more but they dynoed it stock and then also with the intake its really sick. NO COMPUTERS NEEDED IT ADDS 30 HP TO THE WHEEL SHOWS ON DYNO ITS SICK IM TELLING YOU, YOU FEEL A HUGE DIFFRENCE JUST WAIT FOR IT TO COME OUT
axtellz 12-21-2008, 10:59 PM Can you post a copy of the dyno sheet?
Got any pics?
Thanks for the heads up!
LexISGuy 12-21-2008, 11:33 PM lol.....right
jwain 12-21-2008, 11:48 PM Can you post a copy of the dyno sheet?
Got any pics?
Thanks for the heads up!
ok here is the dyno pics for it ima also put the pics and video on the web soon look on youtube soon ill post there
jwain 12-21-2008, 11:58 PM lol.....right
heres the words of the bottom u can read this much more clear
axtellz 12-22-2008, 01:33 AM Cool. So, can you tell us the story behind it? Do you know someone at KN, or just inquire about an intake for the isf, or what? How did your car become their test mule?
henry zzzz 12-22-2008, 02:25 AM sounds like alota hype unrealistic claims are often made few can be verafied.30 to the wheels? from an air filter?!! i wish!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Supraman16 12-22-2008, 04:14 AM Is it me or do the initial torque reading seem unusually low?
jwain 12-22-2008, 07:36 AM Is it me or do the initial torque reading seem unusually low?
Ok let me explain to you all the reason why i got my intake way before they are even coming out with it is because my car was a test mule and yes it is true it gained 30 hp and 25 pounds of torque its really true im not lying i felt a huge difference. i took it to the track on thursday and i usually run an 8th of a mile 8.7sec on an 8th of a mile but this time i ran 8.3 this time its really fast im telling you and it sounds sick like a ferrari f1 i just got pulled over the other day because of my intake but i tell you what hold out for the k and n intake its well worth it the way they made it the tubing is not metal its like carbon fiber so its not a heat soaker and they did a huge reasearch on how to improve it if you really wanted to find out just hold out for it till they come out with it im telling you its well worth it its insane. i said the same its insane because usually intakes dont bring that much hp out of an intake but when i felt it and saw the dyno sheet and taken it to the track it proved to be real. if there is anything u guys needed to know i can answer your questions im trying to put it on youtube havent had the chance yet just hold out for it. i had the srt intake and it really wasnt as great. it felt like the car wasnt tuned right. i had that computer in my car also put in i spliced through my computer wire, and it was a mistake i should have never taken just hold out for it trust me on this
jwain 12-22-2008, 07:40 AM Is it me or do the initial torque reading seem unusually low?
i called them k and n about the intakes and they told me they had nothing yet for that vehicle they said they are looking for some one with the car to test it on so i said if they were willing to give me a free intake i was willing to give me car in so they said thats what they normally do so i left it there as a test mule
LEXTOYcanuck 12-22-2008, 01:07 PM Ok let me explain to you all the reason why i got my intake way before they are even coming out with it is because my car was a test mule and yes it is true it gained 30 hp and 25 pounds of torque its really true im not lying i felt a huge difference. i took it to the track on thursday and i usually run an 8th of a mile 8.7sec on an 8th of a mile but this time i ran 8.3 this time its really fast im telling you and it sounds sick like a ferrari f1 i just got pulled over the other day because of my intake but i tell you what hold out for the k and n intake its well worth it the way they made it the tubing is not metal its like carbon fiber so its not a heat soaker and they did a huge reasearch on how to improve it if you really wanted to find out just hold out for it till they come out with it im telling you its well worth it its insane. i said the same its insane because usually intakes dont bring that much hp out of an intake but when i felt it and saw the dyno sheet and taken it to the track it proved to be real. if there is anything u guys needed to know i can answer your questions im trying to put it on youtube havent had the chance yet just hold out for it. i had the srt intake and it really wasnt as great. it felt like the car wasnt tuned right. i had that computer in my car also put in i spliced through my computer wire, and it was a mistake i should have never taken just hold out for it trust me on this
Atrocious grammar and punctuation aside, you didn't even answer his question.
And to clarify your next post... You called K&N out of the blue to ask about an intake, and they said "we don't have anything yet, but we'll give you a free intake if you let us use your car to develop it". Is that about right?
2pdfst 12-22-2008, 02:36 PM Atrocious grammar and punctuation aside, you didn't even answer his question.
And to clarify your next post... You called K&N out of the blue to ask about an intake, and they said "we don't have anything yet, but we'll give you a free intake if you let us use your car to develop it". Is that about right?
Tough crowd here, the guy is simply exited about a new mod. He has even provided a Dyno sheet. Those that are skeptical, don't order it.
Travelingman 12-22-2008, 02:48 PM I admire the initiative of someone that would contact K&N and offer up a test vehicle. However, I just can't envision that any aftermarket supplier of intakes, exhaust systems, etc., would look seriously at a vehicle with such a comparatively low number production run. I've read about other manufacturers taking a look at performance parts for the ISF, but I think that is all that might happen, they will take a look, crunch some numbers, and find that it doesn't do anything for their "bottom line". Too bad.
LEXTOYcanuck 12-22-2008, 02:50 PM Point taken... I can see how my post probably came across pretty rude. I just have a hard time giving credibility to someone who can't take the time to proof-read their delivery, and the situation under which the intake was provided/developed seems rather dubious... at least to me...
lowrider 12-22-2008, 02:54 PM Tough crowd here, the guy is simply exited about a new mod. He has even provided a Dyno sheet. Those that are skeptical, don't order it.
Tough Crowd:confused: The darn thing doesn't exist. Folks have asked for photos, and none have been forthcoming. Dyno sheet? How easy can the be forged? Order it:eek: Go to K&N's site and try to order anything for the "F". The site informs you "No products found, please try another application". Now I've been using K&N stuff for years. I've got a K&N air filter in my F right now. It's one they recommend for various Volkswagen applications, but it fits our cars. Again, I've been following this thread, and call me a skeptic, but I don't believe any of this:mad:
Lou
you'll find that I contacted them several months back about using my car for their mule. At that time they said they already had a mule and that the "AIR FILTER" would be coming out at the end of the year. There was never any mention of an cold air induction system to me, only a air filter.
When I asked about using the one for the Volkswagen as suggested in the previous thread, they said their testing showed it was not a perfect fit so they were making a new air filter mold specifically for the IS-F. Again, all this talk revolved around a "air filter" and never was there any talk about anything more. I can't say they didn't make a cold air induction system, as suggested, just that at the time I talked to them that they were only working on an drop in air filter for us. I'll call them back for an update and keep everyone posted on what I learn.
BigMikeISF 12-22-2008, 11:00 PM you'll find that I contacted them several months back about using my car for their mule. At that time they said they already had a mule and that the "AIR FILTER" would be coming out at the end of the year. There was never any mention of an cold air induction system to me, only a air filter.
When I asked about using the one for the Volkswagen as suggested in the previous thread, they said their testing showed it was not a perfect fit so they were making a new air filter mold specifically for the IS-F. Again, all this talk revolved around a "air filter" and never was there any talk about anything more. I can't say they didn't make a cold air induction system, as suggested, just that at the time I talked to them that they were only working on an drop in air filter for us. I'll call them back for an update and keep everyone posted on what I learn.
Sounds good, let us know Dean. I'm a little skeptical but will reserve judgment until I see pics of the system or hear it from a second source. :cool:
2pdfst 12-24-2008, 02:41 PM Tough Crowd:confused: The darn thing doesn't exist. Folks have asked for photos, and none have been forthcoming. Dyno sheet? How easy can the be forged? Order it:eek: Go to K&N's site and try to order anything for the "F". The site informs you "No products found, please try another application". Now I've been using K&N stuff for years. I've got a K&N air filter in my F right now. It's one they recommend for various Volkswagen applications, but it fits our cars. Again, I've been following this thread, and call me a skeptic, but I don't believe any of this:mad:
Lou
It is kind of like someone at a cocktail party telling you how much money they make, how much they bench press, quarter mile time. Why waste your time asking someone to prove what you know to be a fallacy?:) :confused:
PS. " it fits our cars " is grammatically incorrect.
said their air filters are NOT ready for release yet and knew nothing about a cold air induction system for our F's. I E-mailed my inside contact and am still awaiting an answer. Will keep you posted as I find out anything.
bchoi27 12-24-2008, 10:33 PM definitely keep us posted... if there is in fact a cold air intake, i would be very interested
BigMikeISF 12-24-2008, 10:55 PM said their air filters are NOT ready for release yet and knew nothing about a cold air induction system for our F's. I E-mailed my inside contact and am still awaiting an answer. Will keep you posted as I find out anything.
Thanks for emailing them Dean. This seems more like a spam message then anything else but I guess we will wait and see huh :cool:
jwain 12-25-2008, 09:14 AM Thanks for emailing them Dean. This seems more like a spam message then anything else but I guess we will wait and see huh :cool:
OK YOU GUYS IM SORRY FOR THE DELAY BUT HERE IS THE PICS OF THE INTAKE I WAS OUT OF TOWN THE DYNO SHEET IS CORRECT 28 HP TO THE WHEEL AND ABOUT 25 POUNDS OF TORQUE HERE ARE THE PICS
THERE NOW U KNOW IM NOT LYING U SEE THE PICS U HAVE THE DYNO
jwain 12-25-2008, 09:35 AM Here Is The Last Pic For U Guys Let Me Know If U Got Any Question Its Not A Joke Though Its All Real U Guys Will Thank Me Later This Is No Bull I Really Dont Have Time To Sit Here And Convince U Guys Otherwise Best Of Luck To All The Buys It U Will Love It Gaurenteed
crazee 12-25-2008, 12:43 PM Nice pics. Love your grammar/typing. Still not persuade by the pics and what you're telling everyone. Especially with the CAPS, it won't convince anyone if you type everything capitalize.
ISF Scott 12-25-2008, 02:04 PM I just don't get all the hostility. If it's real great if not no big deal. I say give the guy a break. We will all know soon enough.
lowrider 12-25-2008, 03:45 PM It looks to be real. But the picts are so small, you can't really see any detail. If I try to enlarge them, they become unreadable. If this guy is for real, K&N chose a very poor spokesperson. Any beta tester for a product needs to have the time to fully explain himself and the product and needs to be able to express himself in a positive way. You would think that K&N would be part of this first time public exposure and would be soliciting feedback from us as well as their chosen tester. The way this is being handled is a puzzlement to me:confused:
From what I can see of this device, the questions I would would have are:
1. How well is it sealed from hot air?
2. Does it continue to utilize the stock 2 step intake system?.
3. Are there dyno sheets available showing this unit and the stock unit under all operating conditions, including those with hot underhood air?
I, for one, would be interested in this product if I knew more about it.
BTW, MERRY CHRISTMAS everyone:)
Lou
BigMikeISF 12-25-2008, 05:46 PM ^^Lowrider, from the pics, it would get rid of the two stage intake and replace it with a one stage, taking away the roar at 3600RPM's. That's just what I can tell from the picture, could be wrong
The weird part is even K&N replied in an email that they didn't have anything for the F, nor is there any mention on their website of a filter, let alone an intake system. This looks like the same setup SRT went with (claimed +20rwhp and +20ft/lb of torque). Interesting stuff none the less, I'll keep waiting to see if K&N releases it. I would think they would have put some mention of it on their site or when asked by Dean said yea, we have an intake but I could be wrong, you never know nowadays :p
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas everyone! :)
jwain 12-25-2008, 07:35 PM ^^Lowrider, from the pics, it would get rid of the two stage intake and replace it with a one stage, taking away the roar at 3600RPM's. That's just what I can tell from the picture, could be wrong
The weird part is even K&N replied in an email that they didn't have anything for the F, nor is there any mention on their website of a filter, let alone an intake system. This looks like the same setup SRT went with (claimed +20rwhp and +20ft/lb of torque). Interesting stuff none the less, I'll keep waiting to see if K&N releases it. I would think they would have put some mention of it on their site or when asked by Dean said yea, we have an intake but I could be wrong, you never know nowadays :p
Happy Holidays and Merry Christmas everyone! :)
it looks very similar but developed a lot better than srt plus a computer is not needed its only an intake but by the way im not here to sell the products in anyway. Also im not suppose to release any information to any of you but i decided to out of good deed. So be nice and except what i tell you cause thats about it thanks to all of you who understand me what im trying to do for you guys
LexISGuy 12-25-2008, 08:07 PM Any pics of the dyno sheet?
While I agree the numbers originally quoted look questionable, I found this on the K&N website:
"Our systems are built for horsepower. In fact on the 2003 Ford Mustang SVT® we get an impressive 30 horsepower"
So while we all might initially question a quoted "30 hp gain" for our beloved IS-F's, or would be much more willing to accept a more normal 8-12 hp gain, we usually see for replacement air filters or CAI(cold air induction) units for other cars, I am not so sure that K&N could NOT come up with something interesting for our cars. Though it is interesting to note that a previous attempt to build a CAI system for our IS-F's by another noted CAI builder only yielded a 1 hp gain???
So at this point all we can do is to wait for K&N to respond to our numerous inquiries or to reveal their product in some other way via their own marketing department. And in the mean time we can all hope that what we've read and see here is indeed a product that will perform as represented and that we all can get buy, and SOON !!!! :)
By the way Jwain, I live in Los Angeles and would be willing to drive to YOU to see what K&N has done. I run my IS-F with both intakes open at all times but can't say that I feel any HP gains, though I do feel a slight decrease in the throttle response time so that's why I continue to run with both open all the time. So to see what K&N has installed and how they are getting what's claimed by just adding a different air filter and a smooth metal pipe in place of our plastic pipe would be most interesting to me.... OR did they really do more then we can see from the pictures?
jwain 12-27-2008, 05:00 AM While I agree the numbers originally quoted look questionable, I found this on the K&N website:
"Our systems are built for horsepower. In fact on the 2003 Ford Mustang SVT® we get an impressive 30 horsepower"
So while we all might initially question a quoted "30 hp gain" for our beloved IS-F's, or would be much more willing to accept a more normal 8-12 hp gain, we usually see for replacement air filters or CAI(cold air induction) units for other cars, I am not so sure that K&N could NOT come up with something interesting for our cars. Though it is interesting to note that a previous attempt to build a CAI system for our IS-F's by another noted CAI builder only yielded a 1 hp gain???
So at this point all we can do is to wait for K&N to respond to our numerous inquiries or to reveal their product in some other way via their own marketing department. And in the mean time we can all hope that what we've read and see here is indeed a product that will perform as represented and that we all can get buy, and SOON !!!! :)
By the way Jwain, I live in Los Angeles and would be willing to drive to YOU to see what K&N has done. I run my IS-F with both intakes open at all times but can't say that I feel any HP gains, though I do feel a slight decrease in the throttle response time so that's why I continue to run with both open all the time. So to see what K&N has installed and how they are getting what's claimed by just adding a different air filter and a smooth metal pipe in place of our plastic pipe would be most interesting to me.... OR did they really do more then we can see from the pictures?
ok check this out their intakes arent metal its like a diffrent form of metal if you want u can email me and i can meet up with u some where so if u wanted to check it out then maybe you can convince this guy who keeps talking crap about the intake that im trying to help him out with and let him know whats going on rather than him giving me crap about it, tell him about how good it works thats fine i can meet u some where for this email me at jwainshtok@yahoo.com
JACKISF 12-27-2008, 05:48 AM i made the same in take with pipe and all and lost hp and torque no way but i might be wrong
bchoi27 12-27-2008, 06:42 PM man, if that thing is for real, i would be totally down and interested... give the guy a break, don't knock it till you know one way or the other. i do know that when i spoke with one of the guys at status vip, they said the reason the joe-z intake is based off the stock intake box was because they tried to develop a cold air intake but couldn't get the hp and torque gains without using the intake box as part of the design... hopefully, if what this guy claims is true, K&N has developed a way to realize the gains... thanks for your posts and hopefully, we will start hearing things from K&N soon!
ISF-88 12-27-2008, 07:20 PM Wow 30 whp from just an Intake? Sounds to good to be true cause DynoPacks/DynoJets can alter numbers. Lets cross our fingers though.
crazee 12-27-2008, 11:50 PM Patience my young grasshoppers only time will tell. =P
houstonT 01-06-2009, 07:11 PM Just curious, any update on this?
Peter
but he could have just returned to work yesterday! I'll try E-mailing him again today. I sent the original poster an E-mail asking to get together but nothing came of that, draw you own conclusion :)
bchoi27 01-06-2009, 09:43 PM if they really did have a cold air intake boosting 25-30 hp, i will be the first in line to get one...
BigMikeISF 01-06-2009, 09:51 PM K&N had an intake on a car at SEMA making it more plausible that there is actually one that can be released. It was on the "IS F by Import Tuner Magazine/TEIN." Still nothing on the K&N website
henry zzzz 01-07-2009, 01:16 AM ive never heard of a drop in filter giveing 30whp , because they dont exist.
Bulls23337 01-07-2009, 06:25 AM the only thing i dont like is the dyno runs were done in 3rd gear. that definitely looks like a K&N intake though. you can see their logo on the intake.
jwain 01-07-2009, 07:57 AM ive never heard of a drop in filter giveing 30whp , because they dont exist.
its not a drop in filter its a whole intake that was replaced by stock intake and they dynoed it
ISF-88 01-07-2009, 09:05 AM its not a drop in filter its a whole intake that was replaced by stock intake and they dynoed it
so they claimed it gave 30 whp and they dyno'd it, were u there when they dyno'd? Did u dyno your car stock first before they slapped this intake on?
Reasons why I ask this is because if you weren't there when K&N dyno'd your car then I wouldn't trust what they've claim on gains...look at SRT claimed 20 whp 20 lbs tq @ the wheels and alot of people did not even get close to that. Also it's actually quite easy to find out if your intake gained 30 whp or not. Just go dyno it yourself from stock and then the K&N intake next.
micaISF 01-18-2009, 12:04 AM even if it is true, i am not putting that thing in my car. K & N ususally increase horsepower by allowing more air in( beside cold air intakes). their filters usually requires oiling and the filter efficiency is very different when freshly oiled vs aged. their filters may allow more contaiminants to enter the combustion chamber when air flow is increased. in 20-30k miles, there is probably not going to be any sifnificant or noticeable damage, but i am not sure what would happen after 50k miles.
persanlly, i am happy with 416 healthy horses. a few additional horses is not going to make a ~ 3860 lb car ( at least 4000 lbs if you include the driver) run significantly faster. if one is serious about improving speed, forced induction is a more realistic approach. the law of diminishing return does apply when it comes to speed. to get that additional reduction of 1/2 seconds off 0-60 or 1/4 miles is going to take a lot more than a few simple inexpensive mods. just my 2 cents.
budz01 01-26-2009, 08:40 PM this will be a good opportunity, maybe the time has come:) ]
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YoTRacer158 02-02-2009, 11:07 PM One thing I've noticed is that K&N intakes tend to increase HP/TQ on poorly designed (American) cars, yet don't do anything for better designed Toyota/Lexus makes. I have a very built Toyota Tacoma and while K&N claims a good HP increase with their FIPK intake system, it actually dyno'd LESS HP than stock when dyno'd by another individual. I highly doubt K&N's kit will do anything for the IS-F, let alone 30HP. They also use super high flow filters that let a lot more dirt through as well. I peronally would never buy anything from them.
micaISF 02-08-2009, 06:26 AM One thing I've noticed is that K&N intakes tend to increase HP/TQ on poorly designed (American) cars, yet don't do anything for better designed Toyota/Lexus makes. I have a very built Toyota Tacoma and while K&N claims a good HP increase with their FIPK intake system, it actually dyno'd LESS HP than stock when dyno'd by another individual. I highly doubt K&N's kit will do anything for the IS-F, let alone 30HP. They also use super high flow filters that let a lot more dirt through as well. I peronally would never buy anything from them.
unfortunately, this is true with many mods.
BigMikeISF 02-08-2009, 04:32 PM Still no mention of anything on the K&N website about any intake or replacement filter. I wonder if this will actually be released, I'm curious as to the real world gains
veerals05 02-28-2009, 05:19 AM any updates?
MRxSLAYx 03-07-2009, 01:54 PM I think this Failed
BigMikeISF 03-07-2009, 07:06 PM I haven't heard or seen any more about anything from K&N being released for the F
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