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: Ported Intake Manifold *NOW AVALIBLE*


Andy@Elite
01-15-2010, 09:22 PM
I have the ported intake manifold finished! It looks amazing! Need to get a stock car to see gains, but with the amount of work that was done (12 hours) we are expecting good power gains! The throttle body uses the factory throttle plate, and the surface is smoothed and polished. Here are some pictures!

An average of 13WHP Gained!!!! DYNO PROVEN!

Pricing will be as follows
Intake Manifold and Plenum Polishing:
$799 +shipping
Ported Throttle Body:
$99 +shipping

Before

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1755.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1752.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1759.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1758.jpg

After

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1837.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1845.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1846.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1847.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1838.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1860.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/100_1829.jpg

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/SCAN0009-1.jpg

dropout
01-15-2010, 09:45 PM
Wow those look sweet!

2URGSE
01-15-2010, 10:17 PM
Nice work, I'm wondering what the power output will be.........

2URGSE
01-15-2010, 10:47 PM
Now that I think about it more, this with the Joe Z exhaust, intake mod and headers should easily hit the 400 RWHP mark.

Ehhh..........I think I just came.............:D

2URGSE
01-15-2010, 10:52 PM
Will this be a core exchange or do you have to send your unit in for work?

No ISF yet and I already got it all lined up.........


Gotta love it...

TXISF
01-16-2010, 12:31 AM
ality of the work looks impressive. Can't wait to see some numbers

infinus
01-16-2010, 12:43 AM
Will this be a core exchange or do you have to send your unit in for work?

+1 more details please :)

LexISGuy
01-16-2010, 12:46 AM
Looks good ok who's is sending there ISF for these?

2URGSE
01-16-2010, 12:52 AM
Looks good ok who's is sending there ISF for these?



It's a no brainier on a V8, you get the craziest gains from uncorking these things.

Andy@Elite
01-16-2010, 12:55 AM
As of right now we need you to send us your manifold. The turn around time will be about 2-3 days once I receive the manifold. I would be willing to do a core return in the future but I need to see a demand to do that. I would be willing to overnight the manifold at the customers expense if the customer wishes for less down time. Average cost to take the manifold off should be about $350 dollars (3.3 hours).

nathanw
01-16-2010, 11:28 AM
Any ideas on a price to have the intake ported and polished?

lowrider
01-16-2010, 02:55 PM
^^^^Did you not read the first post:confused: Or am I missing something:rolleyes:

Lou

nathanw
01-16-2010, 09:04 PM
^^^^Did you not read the first post:confused: Or am I missing something:rolleyes:

Lou
I could be wrong here, but I swear that the price was NOT there when I posted this... But, Thanks anyways "Captain Obvious".:p

Splat
01-16-2010, 10:11 PM
and i think ill be sending you these parts as well to get taken care of either before or after our project.

jaslapp1
01-17-2010, 03:39 PM
When do you expect to have some dyno numbers of a stock F or relatively stock F (exhaust, intake).

Andy@Elite
01-17-2010, 06:35 PM
I need to either get a stock car here to try or I need someone to buy one of these....

MRxSLAYx
01-20-2010, 02:49 PM
Any luck that their is a DIY tutorial out there to get the manifold off. I took a look at the wiring harness yesterday and i dont think its gonna be that easy to do at home :(
I need to either get a stock car here to try or I need someone to buy one of these....

Splat
01-20-2010, 06:20 PM
im taking mine off next weekend at issforged if you want to do yours also, then over night shipping mine to mn for a quick turn around and some testing to see what numbers produce, unless of course andy wants to respond to my txt first ;)

MRxSLAYx
01-21-2010, 03:38 AM
Ill come by and check it out. Im not sure about sending it out though. Most of the people who know about my build plans say to keep everything local. Im trying to decide....
im taking mine off next weekend at issforged if you want to do yours also, then over night shipping mine to mn for a quick turn around and some testing to see what numbers produce, unless of course andy wants to respond to my txt first ;)

Splat
01-21-2010, 03:52 AM
well i can tell you that there manifold will be here monday and then i am overnight shipping mine to them. So we plan on testing out the gains to be had on the dyno next tuesday.

rcracer_tx
01-21-2010, 09:43 PM
well i can tell you that there manifold will be here monday and then i am overnight shipping mine to them. So we plan on testing out the gains to be had on the dyno next tuesday.

Are you getting the ported throttle body as well?


very interested to see the gains :D

Splat
01-21-2010, 09:59 PM
yes.. they are en route.

veerals05
01-22-2010, 01:14 AM
Awesome!! I'm excited to send mine, but I want see gains before pull tHe trigger.

agtuning51
01-26-2010, 06:59 PM
yes.. they are en route.

Any news on the intake manifold and TB?

Please post gains when you get it to the dyno, and also please tell us what performance parts were on the car before and what was your WHP before.

Splat
01-26-2010, 07:04 PM
Any news on the intake manifold and TB?

Please post gains when you get it to the dyno, and also please tell us what performance parts were on the car before and what was your WHP before.

Come on this isnt my first time at the dance, and check my exhaust thread you will see.

That being said i signed my slip so UPS should be dropping it off this afternoon at my house. Then tomorrow i have a track event at Homestead with the LF-A launch. So i should be gettting on this thursday!

Splat
01-28-2010, 07:08 PM
dropped my car off with janoy for it to get a baseline this afternoon or tomorrow. Once that is done i will be swapping the parts and going back to the dyno. We are looking to have everything done for the Huge lexus/supra meet this sunday!

MRxSLAYx
01-28-2010, 07:16 PM
Great News. Ill be sure to talk to you in person at the show
dropped my car off with janoy for it to get a baseline this afternoon or tomorrow. Once that is done i will be swapping the parts and going back to the dyno. We are looking to have everything done for the Huge lexus/supra meet this sunday!

veerals05
01-30-2010, 01:35 AM
the verdict isssss-----

Splat
01-30-2010, 02:01 AM
the verdict is we will be releasing the results by mid next week. we have more baselining of the car to do then swapping the intake driving and dyno it.

MRxSLAYx
02-04-2010, 04:02 PM
So... How did the Dyno go?

Splat
02-04-2010, 04:53 PM
Shit im still trying to get the OEM manifold off. I started it yesterday and spent two hours working under the hood. And let me tell you that once i got started and remembered that i needed to drain all the fluids and do this and that I said F it. Then I had Janoy call a Lexus Tech. (who will either except the job) or im flatbedding it to my STi shop and letting the man work wonders on it bc i dont have time for it. (In the Marines and working about 120hrs a week for haiti).

Splat
02-05-2010, 05:33 PM
Those awesome elves at ISSForged got the manifold off lastnight after i left it in there hands. They are swapping the new one on today and buttoning up everything then we will go off to the dyno either saturday or monday and results will be up. Sorry for the delay.

veerals05
02-06-2010, 03:12 AM
awesome... I can't wait!!

abyars
02-06-2010, 12:28 PM
Man I hope there is a worthwhile increase, and thanks for your efforts here Splat :)
Andy

Andy@Elite
02-07-2010, 03:11 AM
The results are in!!!!!!! We gained 13whp! I don't have the dyno yet, but Splat text me and told me the good news! The dyno sheets will be up on Monday when he gets a chance to email them to me! So as for when the extra power comes on I don't know yet!

Andy@Elite
02-08-2010, 03:49 PM
No reactions???? Hmmm I'm shocked... What are your thoughts guys and gals?

doublexl
02-08-2010, 04:03 PM
lol...i liked the gain. i bet it would be more when accompanied with headers. more out = more in!

MRxSLAYx
02-08-2010, 04:12 PM
13whp is good but at the price i believe most of us are going to wait for the headers to be released.

CarlosF
02-08-2010, 04:26 PM
I would like to see the air fuel ratio in order to see if the car leaned out. also would like to see the dyno graph, because I believe that the car had an aftermarket exhaust. but still if the car gained 13 rwhp that is good for a non forced induction engine.

Splat
02-08-2010, 04:45 PM
I would like to see the air fuel ratio in order to see if the car leaned out. also would like to see the dyno graph, because I believe that the car had an aftermarket exhaust. but still if the car gained 13 rwhp that is good for a non forced induction engine.

The ODB was hooked up for the dyno so everything will be readable. Andy has them in his email now. As for the exhaust yes it does have an exhaust, but the clear case of the matter is that it was dynoed with it on before for baseline and after. Also i wasnt getting 100% tps opening so im putting the blitz on today and then taking it back to dyno it again seeing if the tps will open up allowing more air in. Either way for the cost and what we have available right now for our cars i am very happy!!

CarlosF
02-08-2010, 05:56 PM
The ODB was hooked up for the dyno so everything will be readable. Andy has them in his email now. As for the exhaust yes it does have an exhaust, but the clear case of the matter is that it was dynoed with it on before for baseline and after. Also i wasnt getting 100% tps opening so im putting the blitz on today and then taking it back to dyno it again seeing if the tps will open up allowing more air in. Either way for the cost and what we have available right now for our cars i am very happy!!

could you take a video of the car, as I'm looking also for an exhaust. thx

Splat
02-08-2010, 06:04 PM
could you take a video of the car, as I'm looking also for an exhaust. thx

I will have janoy take one for you and contact you about an exhaust if you would like. pm me your info.

caymandiver75
02-08-2010, 06:05 PM
The results are in!!!!!!! We gained 13whp! I don't have the dyno yet, but Splat text me and told me the good news! The dyno sheets will be up on Monday when he gets a chance to email them to me! So as for when the extra power comes on I don't know yet!

Wow so far so good. 13whp is more than I was thinking but will reserve my full opinion until after I see the charts.

CarlosF
02-08-2010, 06:34 PM
I will have janoy take one for you and contact you about an exhaust if you would like. pm me your info.

already talked to him, I just want to know wich of the two exhaust you have cuz they make a race one that makes interior noise.

Splat
02-08-2010, 07:06 PM
already talked to him, I just want to know wich of the two exhaust you have cuz they make a race one that makes interior noise.

i have both systems, janoy uses my car all the time and likes the quiet one, i like the loud one and dont notice bc im used to it. However i can tell that the drone is only from about 1700-2000 rpms its really not that bad at all. During this dyno run it was the quieter of the two setups. We are going to redyno this week using the track system.

abyars
02-08-2010, 09:25 PM
How did you conclude your TPS was not 100%?

CarlosF
02-08-2010, 09:58 PM
i have both systems, janoy uses my car all the time and likes the quiet one, i like the loud one and dont notice bc im used to it. However i can tell that the drone is only from about 1700-2000 rpms its really not that bad at all. During this dyno run it was the quieter of the two setups. We are going to redyno this week using the track system.

so the quiet one has some drone between 1700-2000?

Splat
02-08-2010, 10:22 PM
so the quiet one has some drone between 1700-2000?

No the quiet one doesnt have the drone, the track/race one does (but i dont mind it) janoy does.

Splat
02-08-2010, 10:23 PM
How did you conclude your TPS was not 100%?

ODB was hooked up we could monitor all the sensors. It was not opening 100% it was doing the same thing when i took it for its baseline. I think when i got it serviced last that the dealerships did something to the ecu, as before my last service i had no issues on the dyno seeing 100% opening.

Andy@Elite
02-08-2010, 10:31 PM
Here is the dyno charts! 13whp on average.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/SCAN0009-1.jpg

MRxSLAYx
02-08-2010, 10:47 PM
good results. Do you have a dyno with torque and rpm?
Here is the dyno charts! 13whp on average.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/SCAN0009-1.jpg

CarlosF
02-08-2010, 11:31 PM
why the base numbers are so low, especially when looking at the claimed rwhp produced with aftermarket exhaust?

caymandiver75
02-08-2010, 11:40 PM
why the base numbers are so low, especially when looking at the claimed rwhp produced with aftermarket exhaust?

Those numbers aren't that low. I dyno'd about the same stock.

It would be ideal and most beneficial to all if we could see multiple charts. One overlaying all the baseline runs, one overlaying all the post intake manifold results and a final one overlaying the best of each.

Also include rpm and larger graphs. If someone can send me the raw files I can put this together as I did with my intake and exhaust testing. http://www.clublexus.com/forums/4496327-post81.html

Splat
02-09-2010, 01:08 AM
everyone wants a million different things. The car was dynoed on a different dyno when we were testing the exhaust when they were first built. I put down 385 max before on the dyno with just an exhaust and intake. They are all different, everyone knows they are good tools. We avg. 13hp increase in this one. When the track exhaust goes back on and the blitz is put on im guessing you will all like the results a lot more. So stay tuned!!!

That is why we had to rebaseline this car bc it was a different dyno and it was the right thing to do.

CarlosF
02-09-2010, 07:46 PM
everyone wants a million different things. The car was dynoed on a different dyno when we were testing the exhaust when they were first built. I put down 385 max before on the dyno with just an exhaust and intake. They are all different, everyone knows they are good tools. We avg. 13hp increase in this one. When the track exhaust goes back on and the blitz is put on im guessing you will all like the results a lot more. So stay tuned!!!

That is why we had to rebaseline this car bc it was a different dyno and it was the right thing to do.
My concern is that you dynoed 385 with the intake and exhaust, now you have 352, therefore my question is was this dyno with the factory exhaust and intake or not.

doublexl
02-09-2010, 08:04 PM
i think he made it pretty clear in his statement that his car was returned to bone stock, then dyno'd, then the ported intake manifold was installed, then it was dyno'd to show the gains from STOCK.

is that simple enough to grasp?

Splat
02-09-2010, 08:19 PM
My concern is that you dynoed 385 with the intake and exhaust, now you have 352, therefore my question is was this dyno with the factory exhaust and intake or not.

my car was dyno'd with the exhaust and intake in (but its a different dyno then was previously used, hence the lower numbers). So we base lined and then we changed the manifold and TB. and re dyno'd that is where we picked up the 13hp.

i think he made it pretty clear in his statement that his car was returned to bone stock, then dyno'd, then the ported intake manifold was installed, then it was dyno'd to show the gains from STOCK.

is that simple enough to grasp?

Car was not stock for this dyno however we have done stock runs and are doing more testing either thursday or monday. depends on their schedule and mine.

CarlosF
02-09-2010, 08:24 PM
my concer is that the ecu might be trying to compensate and therefore making it rich the mixture

doublexl
02-09-2010, 08:57 PM
When the track exhaust goes back on....That is why we had to rebaseline this car bc it was a different dyno and it was the right thing to do.

this led me to believe you took the exhaust off.

Splat
02-09-2010, 09:49 PM
this led me to believe you took the exhaust off.

no i have the quiet exhaust on now, and we needed to baseline that, plus its a different dyno. sorry for the confusion.

I am putting the track back on and then we are going to redyno it again.

ISSJanoy
02-13-2010, 01:42 AM
To clear some stuff up... the car had a version of the street exhaust, Toms Filter, and a Joe-Z Intake Pipe. The exhaust that was used was something we were trying that BOMBED!!!

We tried to take care of the drone problem and make as much power as possible.... and again it BOMBED!

Trial and error is better on another persons car if you know what I mean! And I am very thankful that splat allows us to try things on his IS-F... Splat you the man!

Regardless the intake did make the 13HP and we will be installing the track exhaust back on Splats car to see what the numbers look like.

The porting look awesome. I will post pics of the install soon.

I also have to say Andy from Elite is one cool guy.

phlabrasca
02-13-2010, 10:13 PM
Ahhh I hope business is good this year so I can just drop off my IS-F and have him add every aftermarket part he's developing. Time to get to work.

oztiks
03-01-2010, 02:27 AM
ODB was hooked up we could monitor all the sensors. It was not opening 100% it was doing the same thing when i took it for its baseline. I think when i got it serviced last that the dealerships did something to the ecu, as before my last service i had no issues on the dyno seeing 100% opening.


With your previous dynos were you using the same OBDII codes to read TPS? TPS in the car never hits 100% on US ECU's from what I understand (and have witnessed). The blitz adds a minor (+2%?) amount, again - from what I understand.

Also - is anyone aware of any -F ECU updates?

Splat
03-01-2010, 01:21 PM
With your previous dynos were you using the same OBDII codes to read TPS? TPS in the car never hits 100% on US ECU's from what I understand (and have witnessed). The blitz adds a minor (+2%?) amount, again - from what I understand.

Also - is anyone aware of any -F ECU updates?

I believe they were in the past not sure. Also i didnt know any of this so thanks for the info. I will look into it and get back to you. I cant imagine driving a stock car anymore after the what i have done so far!

ekorre
03-28-2010, 06:55 AM
I believe they were in the past not sure. Also i didnt know any of this so thanks for the info. I will look into it and get back to you. I cant imagine driving a stock car anymore after the what i have done so far!

splat, has anyone brought up that the way he is porting it might not be optimal? It seems that im is polished throughout all the way into the runners leading to the chamber.

From what little i know, on other cars getting ported, we would leave the runner, just that final tube going into the chamber, rough, so that the air tumbles a bit before entering the chamber, that smooth runner lacks the turbulence caused by the rougher spot before entering the chamber. the tumbled air generally gives a better mix of a/f and thus a more efficient charge.

has this come up at all, or does this sound applicable at all. I am not an engineer, and this was just something I saw discussed, it seems plausible, but the difference also seems minute. and again Im only referencing the runners if that s what they're called, the legs of the spider if it was one.

Andy@Elite
04-03-2010, 12:27 AM
splat, has anyone brought up that the way he is porting it might not be optimal? It seems that im is polished throughout all the way into the runners leading to the chamber.

From what little i know, on other cars getting ported, we would leave the runner, just that final tube going into the chamber, rough, so that the air tumbles a bit before entering the chamber, that smooth runner lacks the turbulence caused by the rougher spot before entering the chamber. the tumbled air generally gives a better mix of a/f and thus a more efficient charge.

has this come up at all, or does this sound applicable at all. I am not an engineer, and this was just something I saw discussed, it seems plausible, but the difference also seems minute. and again Im only referencing the runners if that s what they're called, the legs of the spider if it was one.

Don't for get these motors are 98% Direct Injected under WOT.

caymandiver75
05-19-2010, 01:18 PM
Here is the dyno charts! 13whp on average.

http://i148.photobucket.com/albums/s25/boostin50/SCAN0009-1.jpg

I was just revisiting this thread and noticed something odd. This dynochart shows only 4 seconds between runs 4 and 13. :confused:

Andy@Elite
05-25-2010, 08:40 PM
Im not positive but i think that shows when the file is pulled up on the screen, not when the run was done... I don't use a dynojet often tho.

trd4life
09-10-2010, 05:26 PM
great job on the porting!

L1V1TUP
09-30-2010, 08:57 PM
i want one :)

darbs242
01-19-2011, 05:53 PM
How much power do you think the throttle body is adding? Obviously the manifold is most of the gain. What do you think the difference is with a manifold and stock tb?

Splat
01-20-2011, 04:22 PM
Maybe 1-2hp at the most, the main effect of the TB is the smooth airflow and allowing more air to get into the manifold faster. Even if you only take 1mm (exaggeration of measure) of material off that is a significant amount off material!

2URGSE
01-30-2011, 07:59 PM
No reactions???? Hmmm I'm shocked... What are your thoughts guys and gals?

Very nice. I'm starting to think this and an intake would do this car justice.


Can you do a write up about taking off the manifold?

FRacer83
04-30-2011, 06:51 PM
I second that. I'm about to install a ported/polished intake manifold and throttle body. Does anyone know where I can find a write-up, or how-to on the removal/install? I'd much rather know exactly what to do as opposed to just "figuring" it out.

FRacer83
05-04-2011, 03:26 PM
Any how-tos on the install? I don't want to miss something

warty531
06-08-2011, 10:35 AM
That's cool.. Cool air intake will produce more hp than hot air intake, thus you can increase the efficiency as well.

N*E*R*D*
07-29-2011, 02:25 PM
Did someone ever get that write up on the manifold uninstall/reinstall?

2URGSE
08-28-2011, 07:07 PM
No reactions???? Hmmm I'm shocked... What are your thoughts guys and gals?

What kind of dyno? What octane grade?

This is on the list..........as long as I get this car..................:o (@#$@$, I hate waiting)

Will you offer an exchange ?

ShadowISF
09-02-2011, 05:50 AM
This project fell through...

2URGSE
09-25-2011, 07:09 PM
What fluids do you have to change when you un-install the manifold?

Do you need any new gaskets when putting the manifold back?

Also, how do the AFR's look on the dyno?

Just curious.

GrandPap
09-29-2011, 02:41 AM
I'm about to install a ported/polished intake manifold and throttle body.

http://i992.photobucket.com/albums/af50/Pipadoodle/postpics.gif

:D

F'n around
09-29-2011, 03:45 PM
I think this and most other projects from Andy have fell through. We have not heard anything from him or his shop it a long time. Too bad, he was always so excited about his projects, then all of a sudden nothing. Has anyone that dealt with him or his products know if he is the middle of a change of some sort, or just giving up on this market? I remember he was changing shop locations at one point.

2URGSE
02-06-2012, 02:39 AM
I would imagine that any good performance shop could do this mod.

Honestly though, the price of the work plus the price of the labor to un-install and re-install the manifold in relations to the power gains....not sure if it's worth it.

Bpower
02-16-2012, 07:20 AM
Has anyone else done this and are there any more dyno sheets to back these gains up?

jeanlegro
03-12-2012, 02:48 AM
they look awesome.